Solitude said:There seems to be a devide on who likes/dislikes the VIP idea. Contirbutors and helpful members think its a good idea, GoT trolls think its a bad idea.
--Solitude--
AngelOfDeath said:even some of those that do contribute dont like the idea.....i am not a GoT troll as you so elequently put it........and i have contributed and am against it......
Minion said:The impression i'm getting from this thread isn't one of critisism towards the whole VIP idea but people attempting to argue their way in, neither of which seem to be working.
Some people may not be able or have enough time to construct an admirable response to a post, however as long as they are capable of replying at least half decently its fine to me. Its not like we were going after the brightest, politest and supportful. - Mainly because we already have me (leave my ego alone, can be fragile).MrRob said:Some people already entered into this 'VIP' section cannot construct a peice of concise, flowing prose nor can they muster an interlectual response as clearly indicated by 'their earlier work'.
As I have said many times on this thread already, we were looking for people that have contributed to the community in someway, and deserve recognition. Being able to pull together a few fancy words is an added bonus, but not required. You will find however that most if not all of the current VIP's are more than capable of doing so nevertheless. After the canditate list was pulled together, it was put to the admin vote as originally said by Beachy. A user required at least 2 votes (2 out of a possible 5, admins approval) in order to be given VIP status. The admins were not given a set of instruction for voting, but instead left to their own devices.MrRob said:Now i must be confused or even confuscious, is it that people who release and develop become these VIPs? Or is it people who can construct a decent conversation? As i feel these rules are blurred, however that does not stray from my viewpoint, this idea is elitest and will just add to the already deep running rivalries that plague this forum.
As I have said countless times before, VIP status is based primary on the contribution to the community, a contribution that has been recognised by a moderator or above, and submitted to admins. I personally don't have the time to go scourering the forum looking for these honorable people, therefore rely on other staff. Therefore I have not seen a contribution from your admirable self personally, therefore in the position of moderator would not submit you to a staff member.MrRob said:Now as i cannot group myself somewhere id like it to be done for me.
I do not visit GoT and spam and talk like some dislexic imbecile, however nor do i release many things. Now this doesnt mean that i have nothing to release it means that i prefer to develop ideas and gain a better knowledge of the working of things. But lets just say i have no releasing history for the sake of the argument. I do however release things that i find in files, try and help people with server related problems and give help to peoples DBs.
LeoCrasher said:Some people may not be able or have enough time to construct an admirable response to a post, however as long as they are capable of replying at least half decently its fine to me. Its not like we were going after the brightest, politest and supportful. - Mainly because we already have me (leave my ego alone, can be fragile).
LeoCrasher said:As I have said many times on this thread already, we were looking for people that have contributed to the community in someway, and deserve recognition.
LeoCrasher said:As I have said countless times before, VIP status is based primary on the contribution to the community, a contribution that has been recognised by a moderator or above, and submitted to admins. I personally don't have the time to go scourering the forum looking for these honorable people, therefore rely on other staff. Therefore I have not seen a contribution from your admirable self personally, therefore in the position of moderator would not submit you to a staff member.
LeoCrasher said:As much as I find grouping and labelling groups of people useful, I'm starting to find this whole elite thing a little insulting, even though I am obviously better than everyone in existance (again, leave the ego pls). If you don't mind me asking, is there perhaps another, deeper reason you don't agree with the VIP idea other than your distinction between 'elitist' and the 'others', which we have both now spent considerable time debating either way?
AngelOfDeath said:or are friends of one of the mods/admins? if u look up some of these elite vips
quite a few of them havent done squat......
well the whole "eliteist" thing has come up becuse labeling someone "Very Improtant Person" simply put is saying that the rest of the community are unimportant because we dont know the right person or group of persons or that we dont fit into the "Elite" catagory and i for one find that very insulting.........and not to insult your ego but you are no better than anyone on this forum we are after all...... human
FUTURA said:Ok fine, but filter through this tomfoolery and grasp my point:
Some people aren't clever enough to create/develop/upgrade things like files and programs and rely on RELEASES!
So... as long as King John, Sir Hiss and the rest share the wealth with the poorly people of Nottingham, I don't see why there shouldn't be a place where the aristocracy can talk about tea and crumpets!
Ripman said:We are a dead comunity because we leech chinese and this will remain till we wil have our full working source code and we will start to implemet our ideas in it.
Ripman, I'd appreciate it if you would read ALL the posts before your own in this thread before you attempt to make a reply again. We have stated NUMEROUS times that people are made VIP's on recognition of contributions to the community, not just some translated releae - which btw is as worthy as everything else.Ripman said:We have some ppl that really do something and release stuff. But this release is www.webpage.com -> download file -> translate what it say in chinese -> post on forums so ppl can have.
A lot of ppl (great ppl and not rude to take only for them) released this things and i suppose they must be rewarded for this. But dont say all ppl need to release things because is nothing to release lool only fi chinese post on their forums. So be real all of u no1 release only take down form chinese and upload to us, as i did -> http://www.lomcn.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=32083 adn i released also i released and a upgrated version f m2server as lots did and they are VIP`s and i`ll "release" more. I dont know why u all judge ppl like this telling them to release because no1 is ever releasing something made by them only taken from chinese sites. We are a dead comunity because we leech chinese and this will remain till we wil have our full working source code and we will start to implemet our ideas in it. Then i think ppl will start to RELEASE.