In Need Of Someone With Alot Of Car Knowledge Please...

[Shmoob]

Not sure if we have any car experts of sorts on here but i'm buying my first car this month and would appreciate someone being able to give me some advice on whether i'm being ripped off or not on what i'm buying as i'll be buying via internet already have 3 or 4 to chose from and insurance estimates etc is what i'm after.

I'm calling to anyone from the UK with a decent knowledge of cars, modified ones at that who could help me out.

Appreciate it chaps

 

[Bacardi]

First off we need to know a few things.. such as ur age, when you passed your test, what cars you are looking at so far, what type of insurance cover do you want and what your budget is...

 

[Shmoob]

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/206017.htm

Thats what i'm after specifically, a budget isn't really the issue i just need the cheapest price i can get really and i'll get that amount.

I'm purchasing the car before i even start my lessons, i'm 16 atm will turn 17 in october (23rd) so it'll be 0 years 0 months in terms of duration of holding a drivers license.

Third party, fire and theft will be what i'm hoping to get.

Cheers for any help.

 

[Robert]

Its carb which means it cant be tuned and by the looks of it, im guessing its been ragged around.

Dont buy it, just because it looks like something from 2fast2furious.

Plus point is that its only a 1.2 litre so cheaper insurance...HOWEVER insuring that will be hard as the insurance company will ask you if the cars been modified and you will then pay for everything thats been done to it.

 

[Shmoob]

Its carb which means it cant be tuned and by the looks of it, im guessing its been ragged around.

Dont buy it, just because it looks like something from 2fast2furious.

Plus point is that its only a 1.2 litre so cheaper insurance...HOWEVER insuring that will be hard as the insurance company will ask you if the cars been modified and you will then pay for everything thats been done to it.

Tuned meaning what exactly? Modified/Upgraded more? If so i really have no intention of doing anything more to it. If i'm wrong it's because i generally don't have a ****ing clue about cars lol.

I'm after a proper "2fast2furious" looking boy racer so in that category it's pretty perfect. Like you said the advantage being it's an older corsa with a 1.2i engine.

When the insurance asks for the modifications surely it's easier just to mention the pricey stuff because most of the little things are cheaper just to repair?

Cheers for the replies guys didn't expect such fast responses

Edit - Bugger lol, "sorry mate the car has gone"

 

[Robert]

ANYTHING you dont declare will be void on your insurance, however your only third party F&T. So if you did crash you wouldnt be covered anyway.

I suggest save and go fully comp the benefits out wiegh the disadvantages.

 

[Shmoob]

Buying a fully moded car at 17 is pricey enough let alone going fully comp on the insurance lol, if i can get a car cheap enough i'll most likely do it though sounds like the best idea. Can you advise anywhere where im likely to get what i'm after?

I mean this clio http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Highly-Modifi...oryZ9861QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

that exact colour, tinted windows and similar wheels without the done up interier would do me really. All i'm after is nice looking on the outside, normal interier and a decent sound system

Edit - What you think of this one? http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/218646.htm seems quite overpriced if it doesn't come with a sound system

 

[Colonel]

ok heres my story im going to enrole in college for my 2nd yr in next week and ive been advised to work 10hrs a week so basically i could probably afford to learn to drive but i cant afford the insurance end of story.

but this is the tips ive picked up along the way:

obviously buy something reasonabley small your obviously going for the lil boy racer car no offence.
ok when your looking on ebay go for a car with a buy it now price.
a car with 6months+ mot
tax is always a bonus
do not buy a car thats over heated and blown its head gasket in the past.
keep in mind that none of the cars goodies such as sound system alloys body kits spoilers etc are not insured with third party.
make sure the engine under the bonnet is what it says on the documents.
go for a petrol with a small engine car because youd find yourself ragging a diesel too much to keep up with the other boy racers.

this was the sort of car i wanted
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Caddy-Golf...oryZ9873QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
deep down im probably gonna get kicked off my college course due to me deep down wanting a car more than my education. but thats life jim

 

[Shmoob]

Thanks for the advice fella, still curious as to wheres the best place to get one though i'm still thinking ebay or pistonheads.co.uk

 

[Shmoob]

Say i bought a basic cheap corsa equip with alloys and lights already on it and then i purchased front bucket seats, how do u fit any kind of cover to the rear seats? I've never took the slightest notice to them so it may very well be really easy?

How much would i be looking to spend on a decent sound system? Could anyone advise any specific system?

-Sorry for double post

 

[Skyline]

Dont waste your time ro cash on these types of cars.

They have had alot more spent on them than they are seeling for... obviosuly a reason for this, such as... its fooked.

If you want a modded car, buy a standard car and mod it your self, if you buy one like the above, it will only piss you about in the long run.

 

[Floyd]

the 106 sounds abit suspect, as far as im aware the VTR(saxo im guessing he means) was injection, mayb its just a typo, but u have to ask urself why has he put it on there? without bigger injectors etc, the bigger injectior unit(vtr one) isnt going to be much different.

personaly i think all 3 cars uve shown all look ****! and probly had the life ragged out of them.

going onto insurance, u will find it very hard to get a decent/if any quotes on a modified car as ur 1st car, you could try foning round specialists but ull probly end up with a crazy quote which u wont be able to afford to pay(there way of basicly saying they dont want to insure u)

...

Just read the description for the 106. it had the full VTR engine out the Saxo and its running bike carbs. wud be quick if u got it running correctly but the tuning that comes with performance carbs can be a nightmare so expect to pay sky high prices with a specialist tuner to get them sorted. Due to the fact its had a engine transplant and modified inlet with carbs u will not get insurance on it as a 1st car.

Bucket Seats...

Didnt quite get what u ment here, do u mean to just remove the rear seats or get them recoverd?

Sound System...

Depends if u shop around/What power u want to be running/wat kind of system..

if ur looking to amp ur speakers and have a sub aswell ur looking @ mayb 500+ (rough guess)

 

[Skyline]

Can get a decent sub & amp for around the 250 mark, and maybe spend around £80-100 for a decent set of Comps.

 

[Colonel]

my bros had a full fli system put in except front door speakers and has spent best part of 600. he has had sum bargain deals with stuff he bought but this is wat he got, fli swat 5 head unit twin 15inch sub 6x9's on back parcel shelf hes looking to get 5 inch front speakers and 2 tweeters. but end of the day you can get a cheap system quite easily if you look around.

if youre looking for a nice car id advise a 106 pug quiksilver look for a previous owner that was a lady and maybe 1 or 2 owners max their a nice size engine fast economical and good looking

 

[Perebble]

I love you.

• Look for a low mileage car
• ALWAYS ask to see the car before you lay down any money
• When you see the car, look for any rust, dents, damage - pretty obvious -(wheel arches are pretty important) - anything that needs fixing / looking at and will cost you £100's before you can use the car on the road is a waste of time and money
• Make sure the engine runs well, check for any leaks if possible
• If looking to modify, which you say you are, buy a car and build from it, at least you'll know what you're getting

 

[Skyline]

my bros had a full fli system put in except front door speakers and has spent best part of 600. he has had sum bargain deals with stuff he bought but this is wat he got, fli swat 5 head unit twin 15inch sub 6x9's on back parcel shelf hes looking to get 5 inch front speakers and 2 tweeters. but end of the day you can get a cheap system quite easily if you look around.

if youre looking for a nice car id advise a 106 pug quiksilver look for a previous owner that was a lady and maybe 1 or 2 owners max their a nice size engine fast economical and good looking

Fli are cheap thats why, and I dont personally rate them.

6x9's and a sub? Pointless, if you have a sub & amp, 6x9's then become pointless. Should have just spent the money on decent comps instead!!

 

[kud125]

oh my what an ugly 106...
get a bog standard 106 Quiksilver, and add on what you want, decent prices on insurance, a nippy car, and you will be as cool as me

you win then.

thing is by going for this "fast and furious look" in those films they modded actual GOOD cars, like a Skyline or a Supra, but a Corsa with a bodykit just looks bloody ridiculous as do most basic cars with bodykits..
in this seasons car fashion scene, less is better..

 

[Atomicide]

Well at 17 most companies won't touch you with modded car of any type, especially those with engine work. When I asked about the impact of a K&N filter on my insurance, they said it would add £700 to the total cost, which basically doubled the amount I was paying.

You don't seem to want to hear it, but buying a normal car, with no mods and driving it around for 2/3 years and having no accidents is the best thing you can do. Gets your overall insurance down, and THEN you can mod a car and not have to worry about the insane price increases.

If you buy a modded car and pay £2000 of insurance and then crash it and lose it all, what are you going to do? You lose everything, either that or you pay like £3500 for fully comp, crash it and make an expensive claim you will probably be branded "uninsurable" and be denied insurance for years.

 

[Bacardi]

www.honestjohn.co.uk and www.parkers.co.uk are essential reference sites when choosing a secondhand car.

Dont get a modified vehicle.
Aim for a low insurance group model, either group 2, 3 or 4 cos any higher and you'll be nearing the £2k mark.

- small, basic city cars like Corsa, Punto, Micra, 106, Ka etc are your best bet.

- aim to get a few years no claims bonus under ur belt as it will help when you do get a bigger engine/modified car. Alternatively wait til you start lessons and look out for a car similar to the one you learn in... From experience its tricky getting used to a car different to the one you did lessons in..

- As for the ICE, nothing stereotypically advertises a reckless driver than a booming amp in the back. If you feel this is essential then make sure the car you go for has central locking/immobaliser/alarm.. These things will also help lower ur insurance.

 

[Shmoob]

Wow guys really didn't expect this lol cheers for all the advise guys -

What i'm after is quite simple really i want one of the older ones (93-99) corsa's preferably a 1.2i engine the engine size really doesn't bother me so the lower the better really. Speed means nothing to me i don't want speed i'm not going to be able to use tbh so all i'm after is looks.

If i was to buy an unmodified corsa in the colour i wanted what kind of price would i be looking at?

Then how much would it cost me to purchase a loud sound system, preferably decent looking but doesn't matter to much, if someone could hook me up to an bay link or something of the more common louder sound systems you can buy for cars i'd appreciate it.

Seats - I would most likely be either wanting to implace to front bucket seats and a matching colour for the rear seats but i have no idea how you do or whether you can do it without having to get a specialist to do it for you.

Wheels -
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/17-ALLOY-WHEE...ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
These are the type of alloys i want, 17inch white with 10 spokes how much would these be in decent condition? Are they easy to fit to wheels?

Windows - Just curious as to how much rear and front tints would cost?

Thanks again people you've been alot of help