Budget graphics card

[DevilsKnight]

Thread title is "budget". Intel is a waste of money when it comes to gaming. Spend your saved money on a better GPU, quicker RAM, an SSD or heck just some more games.

Are you being serious? Care to explain how intel is a waste of money for gaming?

Whats the price difference between a Fx 9590 and a i7 4790 £30-40 at most?


Dk

 

[JealY]

FX 9590? What?

The thread is related to being on a budget.

I reckon an A10 is the way to go for budget gaming (Mir - though saying that it runs BF4). You'll save oodles.

 

[DevilsKnight]

FX 9590? What?

The thread is related to being on a budget.

I reckon an A10 is the way to go for budget gaming (Mir - though saying that it runs BF4). You'll save oodles.

Well actually I thought we both addressing tdid which had mentioned getting the 4790, the 9590 is the amd cpu that comes close for price and performance.

Which brings me back to my post, go for the intel.

I agree with jealy for the OP, go for an amd. But then again saying that if all she wants to do is play mir then intels onboard gpu's should more than suffice?

Dk

 

[Jacko]

Well actually I thought we both addressing tdid which had mentioned getting the 4790, the 9590 is the amd cpu that comes close for price and performance.

Which brings me back to my post, go for the intel.

I agree with jealy for the OP, go for an amd. But then again saying that if all she wants to do is play mir then intels onboard gpu's should more than suffice?

Dk

TBH the diff is more in amd vs nvidia
as amd graphics cards are alot cheaper I agree that Intel processors are prettmuch better at any point unless you're going for 500€ budget pc but either way having an amd cpu and gpu makes them work together a lil bit more

although there nothing wrong with an intel cpu and amd gpu together.

 

[TheDayIDie]

>.> all these posts have thrown me off now. I'll have a look at an AMD build later too and compare the difference between them - this PC is not just for mir but for gaming in general, I like to play newer games like DayZ, CS Go, Smite and Diablo3 too. It will also serve as my work PC for when I am at uni so in a way it does need to be budget but I don't want to cut corners.

P.S. Sorry Xena for hijacking your thread - didn't expect this many replies >.<

 

[Koriban]

AMD cards aren't exactly "reliable" when it comes to a lot of very-older-gen games. A lot of people steer clear from AMD cards for this reason. Nothing to do with performance wise tbh, AMD can match Intel - it'll be cheaper but it'll also be hotter/louder.

AMD no longer go for "raw performance" but rather go for "bang-for-buck" (but then again this isn't strictly true either if we look at performance matchups) - essentially they make your money go as far as possible.

If you're on a super strict budget then AMD. If money is no object to you and want the best possible gaming setup then go for Intel/Nvidia setup.

Usually it's just down to personal preference.

 

[Violent]

It is definitely personal preference when it come to suppliers. My choice would be the Intel - Nvidia set-up as that's what I have always had and only had minor issues with them which I have been able to resolve myself anyway.

 

[Jacko]

AMD cards aren't exactly "reliable" when it comes to a lot of very-older-gen games. A lot of people steer clear from AMD cards for this reason. Nothing to do with performance wise tbh, AMD can match Intel - it'll be cheaper but it'll also be hotter/louder.

AMD no longer go for "raw performance" but rather go for "bang-for-buck" (but then again this isn't strictly true either if we look at performance matchups) - essentially they make your money go as far as possible.

If you're on a super strict budget then AMD. If money is no object to you and want the best possible gaming setup then go for Intel/Nvidia setup.

Usually it's just down to personal preference.

I do mostly have the feeling intel/nvidia rigs last longer(durability wise) then amd rigs , and ofc when OCing intel/nvidia are so much better it's just if you just take 3 parts which define a rig mobo,CPU,gpu amd is so much cheaper for the same in terms of power

I just lately find it a waste of money to get an intel rig since the cpu's and gpu's are getting faster and cheaper every month by large margins

 

[d1craig]

I do mostly have the feeling intel/nvidia rigs last longer(durability wise) then amd rigs , and ofc when OCing intel/nvidia are so much better it's just if you just take 3 parts which define a rig mobo,CPU,gpu amd is so much cheaper for the same in terms of power

I just lately find it a waste of money to get an intel rig since the cpu's and gpu's are getting faster and cheaper every month by large margins

from what i have read amd gpus are much better for overclocking, especially for the less expensive cards.

nothing wrong going intel/nvidia for £650+ budget. performance is performance. just cos you spend less doesnt mean it works better.

you can go to a company that builds your pc called pcspecialist and build something a hell of alot better than what you have built there for £1000.

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Are you being serious? Care to explain how intel is a waste of money for gaming?

Whats the price difference between a Fx 9590 and a i7 4790 £30-40 at most?


Dk

i think what he would be trying to say is - if you are going to spend enough on a cpu from intel (the latest i7) it would detract from the rest of your build if on a budget.

an expensive cpu means a less expensive gpu and for gaming thats not really what you should do lol.

 

[Jacko]

from what i have read amd gpus are much better for overclocking, especially for the less expensive cards.

nothing wrong going intel/nvidia for £650+ budget. performance is performance. just cos you spend less doesnt mean it works better.

you can go to a company that builds your pc called pcspecialist and build something a hell of alot better than what you have built there for £1000.

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i think what he would be trying to say is - if you are going to spend enough on a cpu from intel (the latest i7) it would detract from the rest of your build if on a budget.

an expensive cpu means a less expensive gpu and for gaming thats not really what you should do lol.

I can get an hella setup for £1000,- if I assemble it myself.

 

[Martyn]

I'm looking at buying a desktop after being on laptop for years, the one i've looked at has a Nvidia Geforce 210 1gb graphics card, and am looking at other alternatives to play mir at full fps (chronicles so 60fps) could anyone post suggestions on cheap graphics cards second hand jobbies from ebay that would do this please? thanks in advance. the guy said i would need a PCI graphics card that'll fit

Whats your budge...

does mir at 60 fpss make any difference? Ill let my FPS an check it out..

tried with normal 60... tried with 30... even went to 20fps an i only noticed it a tad...

anyway, you find you a nice graphic card. what do you want to pay? i got an old gtx 570 laying around i dont use? give me a PM if your interested in that one, if not were find you something else.

 

[DevilsKnight]

I do mostly have the feeling intel/nvidia rigs last longer(durability wise) then amd rigs , and ofc when OCing intel/nvidia are so much better it's just if you just take 3 parts which define a rig mobo,CPU,gpu amd is so much cheaper for the same in terms of power

I just lately find it a waste of money to get an intel rig since the cpu's and gpu's are getting faster and cheaper every month by large margins

I would disagree, I have had my computer for 2 years now and do not feel that the latest cpus/gpus are worth investing in. Maybe another year or 2 then possibly.

i think what he would be trying to say is - if you are going to spend enough on a cpu from intel (the latest i7) it would detract from the rest of your build if on a budget.

an expensive cpu means a less expensive gpu and for gaming thats not really what you should do lol.

Thats not what I'm trying to say, what I'm saying is games rely just as much on the cpu as they do the gpu. If you have a high end gpu and a mediocre cpu it will reduce your frame rate/load times etc etc. Its about getting the balance right.


Dk

 

[Martyn]

I would disagree, I have had my computer for 2 years now and do not feel that the latest cpus/gpus are worth investing in. Maybe another year or 2 then possibly.

Had my PC over 4 years.. and only thing I've added is new GPU/Ram... but to be honest... I didn't know anything different from the new GPU...

http://smir.co.uk/pc/

 

[DevilsKnight]

Had my PC over 4 years.. and only thing I've added is new GPU/Ram... but to be honest... I didn't know anything different from the new GPU...

http://smir.co.uk/pc/

My point exactly


Edit:
Nvm just saw at the bottom of that page


Just out of interest how come you didn't leave the old 570 in there and have it dedicated to physics or something like that?


Dk

 

[Koriban]

Thats not what I'm trying to say, what I'm saying is games rely just as much on the cpu as they do the gpu. If you have a high end gpu and a mediocre cpu it will reduce your frame rate/load times etc etc. Its about getting the balance right.


Dk

I believe the term is "bottlenecking".

But yeah, this happens more often than people think. I just tell people it's like putting together a pyramid... it needs to be correct and each part must fit/work well with the previous part.

You need a solid base (Motherboard) a constructive lower-middle (CPU/GPU) good upper-middle (cooling/power source/etc) and a good top finish (case/other network cards) or something like that lol.

Upgrading one thing at a time is fine but if you try to put a GTX Titan into a 10year old motherboard (yes, my friend tried to do this) then...

 

[Jacko]

Btw if you have real money don't bother buying some "gaming pc" and just buy something like this.

[h=1]Hp Z820 2x 8C 2.90Ghz/256gb/4tb/dvd/Blu-Ray/Quadro K6000/Win[/h]

it has 16 cores at 2.90ghz
256gb ddr3 ram
4tb space
quadro k6000 GPU 12GB GDDR5

would be fun to run some games on this and benchmark the fps etc

 

[Martyn]

Just out of interest how come you didn't leave the old 570 in there and have it dedicated to physics or something like that?


Dk

Just isn't needed.. I play all games fine

 

[d1craig]

Thats not what I'm trying to say, what I'm saying is games rely just as much on the cpu as they do the gpu. If you have a high end gpu and a mediocre cpu it will reduce your frame rate/load times etc etc. Its about getting the balance right.


Dk

I was saying this is what the guy you where/are debating with was trying to say not what you where trying to say.

 

[DevilsKnight]

I was saying this is what the guy you where/are debating with was trying to say not what you where trying to say.

Sorry just re-read it, my mistake. Apologies

But my point is still valid

Dk

 

[SmavidDavid]

Btw if you have real money don't bother buying some "gaming pc" and just buy something like this.

Hp Z820 2x 8C 2.90Ghz/256gb/4tb/dvd/Blu-Ray/Quadro K6000/Win



it has 16 cores at 2.90ghz
256gb ddr3 ram
4tb space
quadro k6000 GPU 12GB GDDR5

would be fun to run some games on this and benchmark the fps etc

This is a CAD/Workstation graphics card, its designed around and focuses on 3d software, maya, autocad etc.. and if i'm correct can perform slower to its gaming counterpart due to it being tuned for 3d rendering software not gaming. Not to mention they cost a bomb! Why would they make Gaming PC's and CAD/Workstation PC's if they were identical .