when you consider he took down a LR that had been up for 10 months, just to have a 6 week flash in the pan which was wiped twice and still was screwed I see where you are coming from.. Ice does help out around here and I think he's fine as a mod, he just shouldn't dabble with running a server.. it always buggers up, and I don't know what it is, but he can't actually just post what is going on.. he makes a small lie and it snowballs til he's in a corner with no way out.. ICE.. ffs, you do lots around here, and we do appreciate you help mir2 keep going, but bloody hell, we aren't asking for blood here, just tell people what is happening.. even if it makes you look bad, it still isn't as bad as stringing people along then saying 'can't be arsed'.. that's what annoys folk the most. You had the start of a good server, why do you think like 30 people were hanging around like vultures.. even though it was LR, perhaps because of it!! You need to sort yourself out, if you want to run a server, then get a bit more serious about it.. The heat you are getting from people here is because of disappointment, just think about that, if it was rubbish you were offering then nobody would be disappointed no? Get your act together bud, shoving your head in the sand don't cut it.