Mir 4 Dev Log
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nxwile
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Discord server set up to get ready for an alpha launch. (no date set as of yet) https://discord.gg/rrrzFM3W
I did rip the autopatcher out tbf, We'll prob find a better way of patching clients.
EDIT: When it comes to Client side updates, Most of it is in a single pak file. rather than how mir 2/3 approached storing data.
Pre-Registration for an alpha test is now open to everyone. No date set for an alpha just yet but still worth having an account ready.
https://thelegendofmir.uk/
https://thelegendofmir.uk/
I would guess that its possible to remove it but in doing so it may make the game a little more enjoyable for yourself and the stubbern people on lomcn but it would most likely have the opposite effect for people who played mir4 for a long time and all the people it could possibly bring to the forum, this is of course ignoring the amount of work it would create as you go from having to reworking rare drops on bosses to having to rework the entire drop for everything as well as altering the experience table to account for manual play as without auto most players would be lucky to reach level75 let alone 120+.
Auto may seem like a bad thing to the older crowd on here but its really not pretty much every p-server you have people running macros to afk level having it already intergrated just levels the playing field for everyone instead of the minority that use them. its also becoming a staple in most MMORPG's because it free's up people to enjoy themselves outside of the game or manage things like feeding and bathing children etc well having some progress.
Lastly Mir4 was never fully auto only noobs and whales fully auto'ed in any PVP manual was the way to go same with certain bosses, But a lot of the people on here never reached that point on offical version as because early on the game was easy going with progression so they got bored and quit thinking the entire game would be that.
Auto Play:
I don't see us going through the effort of stripping it out and I don't feel it would be fair to strip it from the source and then release said source.
Once the open source is released, then people can add/remove features as they please to suit the needs of their server.
I don't see us going through the effort of stripping it out and I don't feel it would be fair to strip it from the source and then release said source.
Once the open source is released, then people can add/remove features as they please to suit the needs of their server.
If people don't want to put the time into it, it sounds like their issue.I mean most server owners from mir3 can't even be bothered to fix dunes map onwards so what owner on lomcn is going to spend the time to remove this and fixs all the things it breaks.
nxwile
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I absolutely agree with you, the fully automated game system is often used in many games and thus prevents people from becoming a mutant zombie who is always in front of the computer
Of course, joking aside, all users who want to play and develop the game cannot devote more than 2-3 hours a day to games due to work - education - family trips and many other reasons, so in games such as MMORPGs, instead of keeping users away from the game outside of these hours, of course, keeping them active in the game with automatic bots or helper-like macros is an effective way for every game developer or company, and at the same time, this situation allows for the emergence of a spirit suitable for the habitat of the game, such as slot fights in games. At the same time, maybe an addition can be made to the automatic bot system, which I have seen in the (Silkroad Online macro) system, users who are AFK can only earn 70% of the incoming exp rate while gaining exp in automatic mode, and at the same time, the rate of items from the drop was 30% less than the user playing manually, maybe such a system can be considered. After all, there should be a difference between a user who actively plays the game and a player who is AFK for 20 hours a day and auto-saves.
there sorta is downsides to auto over manual already as take magic square and secret peaks best places to level but if you auto your spell casting and auto movements aren't as good as if you manually did it many people tested this on global and you could earn almost double that you got using the auto farming.
Its why most players would manually hunt MS, SP, and later on dominance server because auto wasn't as good but when they were in general field auto was used. Same in PVP the spells order of casting couldn't be set so you could throw out all your CC on a target already CC'ed wasting them or use buffs or healing at the wrong time. All high level player will tell you using auto in PVP is just a way to get yourself killed against an opponent of around 20-30k ps difference.
Its why most players would manually hunt MS, SP, and later on dominance server because auto wasn't as good but when they were in general field auto was used. Same in PVP the spells order of casting couldn't be set so you could throw out all your CC on a target already CC'ed wasting them or use buffs or healing at the wrong time. All high level player will tell you using auto in PVP is just a way to get yourself killed against an opponent of around 20-30k ps difference.
Update:
After re-doing the Client Launcher a few weeks back and seeing how the plain white winform makes me shiver, I've re-done the Server Console.
It's back up to where the old one was but with a newer look and some extra features I didn't manage to get round to doing for the old one.
I'm still yet to add a database editor to the server console but one is being worked on and will be spliced into the Client Launcher/Server Console Source once it's done (will be baked into the server console). I also need to add the ability to view the logs but i'm going to do this alittle diffrently to how I did it on the old Server Console.
Enjoy
Old Server Console:
New Server Console:
View - GitHub
After re-doing the Client Launcher a few weeks back and seeing how the plain white winform makes me shiver, I've re-done the Server Console.
It's back up to where the old one was but with a newer look and some extra features I didn't manage to get round to doing for the old one.
I'm still yet to add a database editor to the server console but one is being worked on and will be spliced into the Client Launcher/Server Console Source once it's done (will be baked into the server console). I also need to add the ability to view the logs but i'm going to do this alittle diffrently to how I did it on the old Server Console.
Enjoy
Old Server Console:
New Server Console:
View - GitHub
Woow this is again a great step forwards , almost cant wait for release to see it working and see the customizable options in the serverUpdate:
After re-doing the Client Launcher a few weeks back and seeing how the plain white winform makes me shiver, I've re-done the Server Console.
It's back up to where the old one was but with a newer look and some extra features I didn't manage to get round to doing for the old one.
I'm still yet to add a database editor to the server console but one is being worked on and will be spliced into the Client Launcher/Server Console Source once it's done (will be baked into the server console). I also need to add the ability to view the logs but i'm going to do this alittle diffrently to how I did it on the old Server Console.
Enjoy
Old Server Console:
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New Server Console:
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View - GitHub
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Only a small update:
LogForm created and now allows you to view each server's logs. Can't really jazz is up (thanks winforms)
LogForm created and now allows you to view each server's logs. Can't really jazz is up (thanks winforms)
What's left to do + future
-Server Console
Database Form: DatagridView needs to be added and configured to work with any sql table we throw at it. More search options are needed.
Config Form: I should have this done by the end of the day.
-Client Launcher
This may be getting a complete overhaul in the coming days.
-Source
So where are we at?
The server requires tons of JSON files that were either missing or not complete when the source was sent to us, These files are
crucial and is the reason we are stuck right before booting a character into the game. The team is working to get these created/edited/tested.
-Client
Pak Tool:
Currently,the process of exporting/editing/repacking the Mir 4 Client's "Pak" file, this currently takes three separate tools which As I'm sure you can imagine is not only a ball ache but the programs being used were not made to handle the data that our pak file contains, Due to this, two of the programs crashes and are very temperamental.
We would prefer to have a single program that can do everything we need, creating one dedicated for the Mir 4 Client will allow us to edit
client's quicker and also make the process of editing more stable and easier.
A guide to the current process of Export/Edit/Repak can be found here: https://www.lomcn.net/forum/threads/client-export-edit-repak.111971/
-Website
Accounts: In the process of adding a email confirmation to account creation + password reset via email.
Tools: I have spoken with the owner of mir4tools.com and they have given us the source code for their website, they are happy
for us to use this to add their tools to our website. We will need to do this because once someone edits values like EXP/Crafting
in their Server, these tools will not be accurate anymore. I would like to thank Treffy (Mir4Tools Owner).
MirTracks: We will (down the line) create API's that will allow us to have a dedicated Mir Tracks for your Server.
This should contain; List of every player, level,gold,crafting levels etc.
This website will be made public in the future.
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I want to just say thank you again to everyone who has helped <3 We are as excited as you guys are.
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I wish someone would put the same effort in to mir2/3
That website is awesome and its wasted on such a trash game.