Number 1, Ben if you were trying to give out 'friendly' advice, it would be by pm not in full public view, same goes for the rest of the 4H zealots, honestly, you really think we are all that thick? A friend does not lay into a fellow friends project in full view of their players, not unless they have a lovely ulterior motive.
We are expressing our views, Elysian team did the same to us and still do, why should we hide our views behind closed doors? If I agree with a post on a forum when I will say so, and I will say why I agree with it, and that does for disagreeing too.
I've given Iceman advice on MSN today, and from what I saw he listened and posted on his forum about the current situation, but that doesn't mean I can't come on here stating my opinion about the launch of the server.
You need to move on and stop trying to make out that we are bringing each other down all the time, its constructive critism, will always happen. I bet 90% of people that posted on here have Iceman on msn, you saying they should have just told him on MSN instead of posting here? Of course not, your trying to make out like we are the bad ones.
I understand where Iceman is coming from, we all have lives, I have University and have loads of exams coming up, but unfortunately, most of the Mir community don't understand that, they expect you to run a server to the standards of an offical server. Which means putting loads of time and effort in, and I can say, if you don't have someone round from the team for at least 18 hours a day, it will be noted and used against you.
Running a server can be very frustrating, but I feel you brought it all on yourself. Beta should have been launched and a wipe shoud have been announced from the beginning, then people can pick and choose if they want to spend time gaining knowlegde about the game or not. That way you have no ties, if you want to wipe, you wipe. People can't moan as you said from the beginning there would be one.
I feel Elysian had a lot of potential, not just because of the files, but the effort that has gone into all round. But I also feel this launch may have hindered it.