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I hope the moderation team feel wise about their choice to remain neutral when Hells inevitably ****s the community over again in the future
BetterPersonally you should not spite others and your self over something that was done between you and hells. its childish am sorry it is. there has been numerous of times Ben or other server's had charge backs why isit up to others to deal with what you profited off.
Im sorry this attitude about leaving cause one player out of 500+ community is dam right childish nothing more. i think you need to reflect on your own actions at times as your not the best at exactly talking or dealing with people are you?
All thats been said hells is in the wrong granted but what do you want from the guy? He doesn't owe you anything nobody is saying what he done is fine. your just throwing your dummy out because you want to see him punished further. all part of the process being a adult. you made money the paypal was sorted. what else do you want him publicly hanged? shamed?
i dont get it. you dont have to speak or deal with him. think you need to clear your head and actually think about why others should deal with something between 2 people who both contribute. regardless in what way.
making a community even smaller and smaller due to your own thought process of not getting on with some one over the internet is mind blowing. thats my 2p . will b a great loss to see you go as your a good coder but this isnt the right way to deal with it.
I hope the moderation team feel wise about their choice to remain neutral when Hells inevitably ****s the community over again in the future
Just as an FYI someone had mentioned Ben has committed the exact same crime but I don't see you mention him?
Instead of stating the problem state your solution. What would you do?
This is wrong & needs to be addressed for the longevity of this community and the long term implications.
We're not "doing nothing"I believe this is quite fitting...
I understand the admins want to stay neutral because you dont want to split the community but doing nothing is certainly not the correct way to handle things.
Just see for yourself how everyone feels about this topic. Hells pulled a dick move big enough to be branded as the most untrusted person in this community and now he's running a Zircon carbon copy without the permision of Jamie, I know he made the files public for everyone but we owe him at least that much, Hells shouldn't be able to advertise his server in here.
The issue isn't about Zircon.
I cannot bring myself to be a part of this community when these actions are acceptable.
- Hell's donated a rediculous amount of money to a server. He may have tried to recall the transaction but accepting that kind of donation from one person would raise alarms in the first place.
We've not pushed anybody away.. Jamie is to be quite frank being a little bitch. He has made a mountain of money from his servers, enough to fund his lifestyle which has allowed him to travel abroad. One rather bad trade and he's up in arms that LOMCN isn't banning him? End of day would you just up and quit as a business owner if one client refused to pay? No you go court and settle it (PayPal in this instance), carry on and ignore them. You don't then go to the community watch group and get a petitioned to get him removed from the neighbourhood!
Admins stopped their involvement, its his personal grievance with Hells that has caused this not LOMCN's.
I think for me personally I was really interested in a zircon high rate due to only having casual play hours with uni at the min but with the situation at hand don't intend to play or touch the server at all and I guess that is how I am going to show my support as a member of the community. As I don't like the fact hells said he would stop if Jamie asked him and then continued on anyway is the bit that doesn't sit right with me him using his files but in a legal sense they are public files with anyone able to access. At the end of the day a server with zero user count won't last if the other online users feel similar.
I do think hells should labelled untrustworthy which is same treatment as others in the past.
I don't however agree with excluding someone from the community for charge back as it was a dik move but not the first or last time it will happen and the same punishment has not been handed down on the others.
Just to change the scenario...
You run a farm, you're in the farmers union and whatnot and this guy is paying you for Carrots.
You give him hundreds of Carrots over a period of time. He then claims that what you sold him weren't in fact Carrots but were parsnips, and tries to recoup all of the money that he gave to you for the Carrots.
He then starts his own farm selling Carrots to others, he joins the farmers union and gathers business through that union.
Do you carry on supporting the union or do you cut your losses and leave knowing that the guy screwed you over once before?